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Building Vietnam’s Innovation Economy

On May 12, 2015, representatives from Google, Uber, 21st Century Fox, Cisco Systems and other multi-national corporations (MNCs) came together to discuss digital trade and cross-border data flows in Vietnam’s capital city of Hanoi. The event was organized by the American Chamber of Commerce Vietnam, the Vietnam Chamber of Commerce and Industry (VCCI), and the US Chamber of Commerce. Of course, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) was front and center throughout the daylong event but there were also a series of interesting topics throughout the panel sessions, some of which were named “Building Blocks for Innovation” and “Best Practices for Promoting the Economy and Protecting Consumers.” During these panels, company representatives spoke about attitudes and policies toward operating in Vietnam.

For example, Google’s Country Lead for Public Policy and Government Affairs, Alex Long, shared some insight into the Vietnamese market: there is 300% more language learning content that is consumed on YouTube in Vietnam compared to the average rate globally, showing the strong desire that Vietnamese have for Google’s services. Google has 13 data centers around the world including one in nearby Singapore. Thus, its interests are global so Google seeks to maintain a virtuous cycle where there is more demand for online services, more innovation in online services, more investment in online services, and therefore more online services in general. (In short, Google loves content–both in terms of volume and quality.)

On a local level, activating this “virtuous cycle” can work in a few ways:

  1. Policy advocacy (through events and working with public sector partners)
  2. Pilots—increasing access (Project Loon, for example.)
  3. Peering/caching (allowing locally and regularly-accessed content to be consumed more efficiently)

However, sometimes basic training needs to be put in place to get users to the point where they can use digital tools effectively. So in 2014 Google worked with organizations like Vietnam E-commerce and Information Technology Agency (VECITA) and VCCI to conduct trainings for 500 small businesses in Vietnam. Ultimately, the goal is to get Vietnamese companies to expand abroad so digital marketing is a way for Vietnamese companies to do that without setting up an overseas office. For example, one tool that Vietnamese companies can use is Google’s Global Market Finder.

One example of a Vietnamese company that went beyond Vietnam (and was present at the event) is Topica Edtech Group, which was founded in 2007 and is now operating in three countries: The Philippines and Thailand (besides Vietnam). The company will launch into the Indonesian market in September 2015 and will be exploring cloud computing solutions within the next six months. Nguyen Khoi, a product director at the company revealed that the first step for Topica was to train people how to use computers even before educating them through their service–again highlighting the need for basic training. Mr. Khoi also shared that he thought the perception of online education in Vietnam was changing and thus Topica Edtech Group may be one of the first in a new wave of Vietnamese startups to expand abroad as a result of positive interest in the field.

At the other end of the company spectrum, Uber Vietnam’s General Manager, Dang Viet Dung had some great advice for startup teams: “Make sure your product is kicking ass.”

He told the audience to “focus on your product first” and ask some basic questions:

  1. Is it good?
  2. Is it intuitive (especially for B2C)

“Often entrepreneurs believe that they need funding—no, get the product right.”

Mr. Dung said to focus on the following steps on the way to success:

  1. Invest in a product
  2. Find a mentor—open up your network, have allies

Mr. Dung also shared information about the recent cable breaks in Vietnam: Normally, the ETA in Hanoi is four minutes and 12 seconds. That means that the time from when a user orders an Uber vehicle to when it pulls up in front of him/her is, on average, four minutes and twelve seconds.

However, the ETA delta goes up during cable breaks which results in the Uber user experience being diluted. Mr. Dung also shared that Uber has had more than 25,000 failed credit card sign ups in Vietnam—the highest in Southeast Asia. Commenting further on recent reports about controversial Uber activities in Ho Chi Minh City, Mr. Dung said the incidents in Ho Chi Minh City related to “paper versus digital” contractual misunderstanding. Mr. Dung also pointed out that Uber is pioneering transparency since all payments are digital so they can be tracked; so instead of skirting tax responsibilities, as some have suggested, Uber is actually helping to increase the tax base.

So, according to Mr. Dung, Uber:

  1. Allows governments to trace transactions
  2. Allows the tax base to get bigger

In relation to Uber, Vietnam will continue to be a growing market and Uber will continue to make the service more affordable. However, the service will stay cash-free so as to not dilute the customer experience. [Update 08/2015: Uber will now be accepting cash payments by end of the year.] Uber is currently available in over 310 cities in 60 countries in the world but when Dung joined Uber in September 2014, Uber was in “just” 180 cities and 32 countries. For Mr. Dung, Uber introduces dynamic quality, feedback, safety—all while optimizing supply (vehicles) and demand (riders). He pointed to the average utilization rate of a private car, 5%; for a taxi, 25%; but for an Uber car it can be between 60% and 80%. Thus, Uber helps reduce traffic, an issue in Hanoi and other cities.

During Mr. Dung’s panel, he said that Vietnam has “one of the biggest startup scenes in Southeast Asia.” There certainly has been a lot of interest in startups in Vietnam since late 2013, from both the private and public sectors. Phan Hong Quat, Director General of the National Agency for Technology Entrepreneurship and Commercialization Development (NATEC), under the Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST), spoke a bit about the origin and mission of NATEC, which was formed four years ago.

NATEC is supporting SME in difficult fields and is working to simplify the process for investment certificate with the Ministry of Home Affairs. The challenge that NATEC is finding a solution to is how to encourage investors to come in and support the developing industry; one initiative that the MOST pioneered is Vietnam Silicon Valley (VSB).

Modeled after Y-Combinator (YC), a seed fund in the US, VSB seeks to replicate a model that is accepted and successful in the US. VSB provides seed money to startups in exchange for up to 10% equity. Last October VSB had its inaugural Demo Day. Through its network of mentors, it seeks to help to close the gap in the startup communities in Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi and growing scene in Danang–especially for outsourcing companies which rely on reliable and open technologies.

[NATEC was the main organizer for TechFest Vietnam, a three-day festival which was held last weekend from May 15 to May 17; the main purpose of the event was to foster international connections for startups in Vietnam. We’ll be doing a follow up to the event soon.]

On the topic of reliable and open technologies, MasterCard’s Indochina Chief Representative and Vietnam Country Manager, Arn Vogel, stated that technology allows better customer service—whether it’s e-commerce or payment facilitation and Vietnamese companies need to be able to talk to the world, especially in order to verify payments. In terms of payments, we are transitioning from 16 digits to tokenization—and verification is crucial; a company can only do that if the transaction is on its network or has access to it. Mobile payments are on the way in Vietnam; there are 130 mobile phone subscribers per 100 people and the internet is ubiquitous. However, facing different data protection laws, MasterCard and others can’t offer hosted services–which affects consumers because they can’t use their credit cards. Mr. Vogel stated that there are about 20 payment facilitators operating in Vietnam and they can all play a role to work together to change the payments landscape.

Overall, one of the key takeaways of the event was that digital tools are not just for information technology (IT) companies but for all potential fields, i.e., all successful businesses use the internet. Cross-border data flows are not just important for IT access but are necessary to use the best technology available. A major point driven by more than one speaker during the event was that the “Digital Economy” is actually the general economy and that any attempts to restrict the flow of data would impede the flow of trade as well.

Adam Schlosser, Director of U.S. Chamber of Commerce, stated that the TPP helps companies of all sizes but Vietnam stands to gain the most out of the trade agreement. According to some estimates, as Mr. Schlosser stated,  it could provide the Vietnamese economy a $46 billion boost by 2025. It would also favorably affect tariffs, market caps, and digital products and services to help facilitate free trade across borders. Jack Lambert, Economic Officer at the US Embassy in Hanoi, reiterated that with the TPP, the biggest opportunities of growth and jobs are for Vietnamese SME but they can’t compete unless they have access to the world and data.

During opening remarks, Vice-Chair of the American Chamber of Commerce, Virginia Foote, noted that the digital economy and global transformation is well underway. And more than a few speakers touched upon how Information and Communications Technology (ICT) has driven the Vietnamese economy in the last 20 years and will continue to have a greater effect in the next 20 years. And nations like South Korea, Israel, Sweden, and others can help to show Vietnam new models and tools in order to create its own digital economy with its own “Vietnamese” style. (One of Vietnam’s strengths is that it has a young population that loves working with technology, so it should be leveraged.)

Above all, the event provided key insight into how multi-national corporations and other entities in the public sector view the future in Vietnam. Throughout Vietnam, there are more than 16,000 foreign companies operating across a variety of industries. Through collaboration, local and international partners in Vietnam can work together to create an ecosystem innovation can flourish; one that is full of promising and fast-growing companies or in other words, building Vietnam’s innovation economy.

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Feedback Loops

If you’ve ever been traveling through Vietnam, then one aspect that is noticeably different between the north and the south is the customer service. For example, when ordering a bottle of beer at a restaurant, the server will usually open it for customers in the south—while in the north, the server might not even bring a bottle opener with the bottle. A few weeks ago, over dinner with some Saigonese friends in Hanoi, the discussion touched upon the better customer service in the south. Not even two minutes later, the waitress (politely) informed us that she felt she was walking around our table too much so we should consolidate our future requests for her convenience. On another occasion, at a cafe/restaurant frequented by tourists in Hanoi’s Hoan Kiem district, your author requested ice water; the waitress brought over cold water sans ice. After inquiring about the lack of ice in the glass, the waitress cheerfully responded, “I think the water is cold enough for you.”

Among the major reasons why customer service (among other things) does not change is simply that customers are used to bad service (they don’t know better), they don’t complain to someone who can do something about it (a manager or owner), they don’t want to complain (for fear of causing trouble for the worker), or they assume it will be futile to complain. This issue consistently rears its ugly head (for tourists, but also for locals) with taxi drivers who know “special” ways to get to the destination, pretend to get lost, or simply don’t know how to get to the destination. Usually, these drivers are from the countryside who flock to big cities after a holiday. Sometimes, taxi drivers will acknowledge where a fare wants to go and will then proceed to “phone a friend” for guidance (and sometimes more than once). At other times, drivers may try to take advantage of the confusion over the local currency by returning less change to a customer than required. Or a driver might not even want to drive to a particular destination if it is “too close” or won’t provide for a “high-enough” fare. (Before Tet in Hanoi, your author experienced some taxi drivers bypassing the meter and establishing “on-demand” pricing.)

However, with the arrival of sharing economy services in Vietnam such as Uber, GrabTaxi, EasyTaxi, they introduce more accountability, systems efficiencies, and feedback loops to allow service enhancements in the future. Or, as Uber Vietnam put it recently, “less congestion, more job opportunities, safer transportation, transparency, accountability and affordability for riders.” Could a similar impact be made in Vietnamese companies via new and innovative technologies (such as mobile apps)? If so, how would progress be measured?

Set Ways

For a team-building session at a major Vietnamese corporation, the management team watches a new TED talk every Monday. The company’s managing director shares some thoughts on the presentation and then opens it up to the rest of the office; almost always, the response is silence. Why?

After discussion with some foreigners who have experience working with Vietnamese—as well as Vietnamese, there may be a variety of reasons for the lack of engagement:

1. Afraid of giving the wrong answer and losing face;

2. Afraid of not giving the “right” answer and being embarrassed by his/her superior;

3. Afraid of giving the correct answer and looking “too” good in front of colleagues (thus painting a bullseye on his/her back); and

4. Not knowing the answer.

This scene presents a sort of “crisis of confidence.” Often, loyalty is valued over competency, making the critical resource of talent in even greater short of supply. And despite money being the ultimate objective for many Vietnamese workers, even bonus systems can sometimes fail. For example, in one Vietnamese company, the underdog team achieved a bonus (approximately $15 for hitting 120% of their target goal) which upset the atmosphere in the office since other units were expecting to win the cash bonus.

Whether it’s a rating system, or a new way to train workers, or standard training, many plans are tough to fully implement in Vietnam. For example, even a new trainer in a reputable gym requires six months before s/he is “good” and a year before s/he can handle any disruption. Long before then, competitors are offering “sweet” packages because the trainer has had a “brand experience.” The same goes for some of Vietnam’s own cafe/restaurant brands; this phenomenon isn’t new—ask any aspiring software developer in Vietnam, especially in the gaming industry. Training and retaining quality employees can be hard (especially when some Vietnamese companies want experienced workers for low pay), but the alternative is keeping the status quo.

Focused Efforts

The greater issue beyond motivating individual employees is that organizations need to establish a baseline pulse to gauge progress in six, 12, 18, 24 months. For example, what KPIs will be used? What will be your targets? How to increase the self-confidence of the workers? How to smartly increase pay to be on par with market rates (and inflation)?

Timeline: What’s the priority? How to identify current employees with the right mindset/attitude? What do you do first?

There can be a variety of initiatives:

  • Hiring process—establish an independent panel/screening to be selective—improving the way to hire
  • HR reorganization/operations—converging departments into a holistic unit
  • Branding/PR—attracting quality talent, connecting with consumers
  • Training programs—preparing the workforce for advancement in the company (meritocracy); promoting a culture of career advancement; and english tutoring components for managers
  • Intrapreneurship/empowerment of workers—expanding into new businesses and retaining the best talent
  • Welfare—raising morale, giving workers more than monetary reasons to stay

Unfortunately, some Vietnamese companies would prefer “quick fixes” which they would like to use within a three month timeline or sooner. Thus, even if core members of a leaderboard recognize that there is a deep cultural issue, they may not be able to do anything because of on-boarding policies and the need to close ranks (even if they describe some of the talent as “terrible.”)

More often than not, companies here can move too slowly, but on the other side of the spectrum they move too fast without thinking (but believe they are on the cutting edge). An example of this is retooling restaurants weeks before opening and consolidating marketing teams across different subsidiaries into a single unit–and then dismissing half the staff.

Creating a New Culture

The challenge is in the implementation, always. True transformation is never really an option unless it comes from the top and has buy-in at all levels, which is rarely the case. Why? Because Vietnamese companies are already very thrifty, there are set alliances in place, and any international hires on staff have usually been unable to implement recommendations that anyone has put forth to enact change.

Then, what should be done? There are a few options:

1. Organizational change

2. Physical building transformation (if necessary)

3. Team-building

Competition is increasing in ASEAN and around the world; what role will Vietnam and its people take on in the global economy in this century? It’s up to the Vietnamese to decide but for sure it will require a combination of innovation, commitment, and investment in areas even as simple as:

  • Empowering workers
  • Eliminating obfuscation
  • Enacting small cultural changes
  • Eradicating fear-based management

But perhaps most important of all is to establish feedback loops, which allows us to gauge goal realization (or lack thereof) in organizations (and in society). Ultimately, feedback loops allow what works to take off, and what is ineffective to be passed over by management.

Forty Years Later

This week we are at the end of a six-day holiday: Hung Vuong Day (Hung Vuong, i.e., “Hung King” is to celebrate the history and lineage of Vietnamese kings.) on April 28; Reunification Day (also called Victory Day or Liberation Day in Vietnam) on April 30; and International Worker’s Day on May 1, also known as “May Day.” It’s the first big holiday break since the Tet holiday (Lunar New Year, a nine-day holiday) back in February. (Originally, the current holiday vacation was requested to be eight days, but only six days were granted.) Signage proclaiming and celebrating these three special days are all over Hanoi, citizens have their flags out in front of their homes, and nationalist songs are broadcast on public address systems in the streets. During significant year anniversaries (30th, 35th, 40th, etc.) parades are held in Ho Chi Minh City to celebrate the north “releasing” the south and the veterans that led the way.

In general, the atmosphere in Vietnam is quieter between Christmas and the Lunar New Year (one-to-two months). Things pick up between the Lunar New Year and this current holiday, but slow down again as we enter this break—in effect, another “reset.” The last day before the holiday, April 27, was the deadline to push through agreements before the exodus to places like Ha Long Bay, Co To, and Cat Ba islands.

As with Tet, many workers return to their home provinces and the streets in major cities become a bit quieter with less traffic (and less honking but not less dangerous, unfortunately). However, some work still goes on: directly and anecdotally, some construction workers on residential projects, service workers in cafes and bars, and factory workers in Bac Ninh all maintained their posts. The next big holiday is in September when Vietnam celebrates its Independence day on September 2. Thus, there are four solid months where business can proceed, unimpeded by long stretches of holiday. At the same time, Ho Chi Minh City’s rainy season begins, which can slow down travel around town due to flooding, and the weather in Hanoi heats up considerably (also slowing down the pace of things) since the city experiences proper seasons without snow.

This year is the 40th anniversary of Reunification Day, when North Vietnamese forces (NVA) captured Saigon and the Second Indochina War ended. In the US, April 30, 1975 is largely viewed as the final day of a tragic chapter in American foreign policy in Vietnam. For the more than one million Viet-Kieu (and their children) in the US, every April brings renewed memories of hardship, sacrifice, loss—and perseverance in a new land. There is no doubt that the war was a dark period for relations between the two governments at great expense of its peoples, some of which continues today. However, more than 40 years after Operation Frequent Wind, Vietnamese attitudes toward the US and capitalism may raise a few eyebrows.

New Attitudes

According to Pew Research, 76% of Vietnamese expressed a favorable opinion of the US during a 2014 poll. Almost nine-in-ten young people (as well as more educated people) were fond of the US. Of those who lived through the Second Indochina War (the Vietnam War as it is called in the US), six-in-ten over the age of 50 held a favorable view of the US. Perhaps the most surprising figure from the poll was that 95% of Vietnamese respondents believe “that people are better off in a free market economy, even if some people are rich and some are poor.” That’s not a typo; ninety-five percent of Vietnamese believe that people are better off in a free market economy (perhaps because the poll respondents picture themselves as the rich ones).

In fact, it’s not uncommon to hear from successful Vietnamese (with direct or close relations to VVIPs) that “making money is not bad… as long as you don’t hurt anybody.” Now, for those who have not spent much time in Vietnam, it may be surprising that there are so many “pro-American” attitudes in a one-party state, especially in the capital.

But spend some time working with Saigonese and doing business with Hanoians and the Pew Research results aren’t that hard to believe at all. For one, Vietnamese love and voraciously consume American culture. Furious 7, Avengers: Age of Ultron, Jurassic World, and Terminator Genisys are all films that have been screened or will be screened in Vietnam. Along with KPOP, Vietnamese youth listen to a variety of American music artists such as Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, Maroon 5, and Katy Perry. American flag backpacks (as a fashion statement) are an occasional sight in the streets of Ho Chi Minh City (formerly and still known as Saigon). Last autumn in Hanoi there was even a American-style prom organized and American-style wedding requests aren’t that uncommon. (In fact there is even an American ordained minister who has performed a ceremonial wedding in Hanoi.)

In terms of American products, the Apple iPhone 6 is perhaps the most desired phone in Vietnam. Getting a gold iPhone 6 Plus is even better. Workers will spend two, three, or more months of their salaries just to have it and show off that they are able to afford one. Silicon Valley is the envy of many Vietnamese entrepreneurs in the tech industry. Even the Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST) initiated a Vietnam Silicon Valley program in 2013. And later this month the National Agency for Technology Entrepreneurship and Commercialization Development (NATEC), a division of MOST, is the main organizer for TechFest Vietnam, a three-day festival which will be held from May 15-17 at Vietnam National University in Hanoi.

And if you were to directly engage and question Vietnamese about the American War (as they know/learn about it), they would most likely respond with “No problem, it was not me and you who were fighting each other.” With two-thirds of Vietnam’s 90 million population being under the age of 30, that is not a surprising response at all. Other Vietnamese have described the US to your author as a “big and strong country,” a “rich country,” and even as “number one” in casual discussions over beer or coffee. (Of course, there are ideologues and “politically correct” apparatchiks to encounter as well.)

One Direction

But it’s not just people-to-people ties that are being forged; there are ever-growing official ties between the two countries as well. Coincidentally, this year is also the 20th anniversary of normal relations between the US and Vietnam. Looking forward, the US intends to be Vietnams’s largest trading partner (having traded $35 billion in total goods last year, the US is already Vietnam’s largest export market), and the TPP will only reinforce the relationship between the two countries even more. However, the intertwined paths of these two countries started long ago, and came to a salient point shortly after the end of the Second World War.

Thirty years before the Fall of Saigon in 1975, Ho Chi Minh stood in Ba Dinh square in Hanoi and read the Declaration of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam; it contained a familiar passage: “All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.” “Uncle Ho,” as he also known, has another particularly famous saying that Americans might identify with: “Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty.” The American Founding Fathers would almost certainly agree with that sentiment.

Forty years later, Vietnam has transitioned from a war-torn economy to a manufacturing center and serves as an integral part of the global supply chain. Beginning with Doi Moi (“Renovation”) in 1986, the Vietnamese economy has become increasingly integrated with the world economy. There have been and will be other significant milestones as well: the US embargo against Vietnam ended in 1994, Vietnam ascended into the WTO in 2007, the TPP will most likely be implemented this year, and by 2018 all tariffs will be reduced to zero as part of ASEAN integration in the region–not to mention a host of other trade promotion vehicles that Vietnam is involved in at various stages. To some, the changes in Vietnam since 40 or even 20 years ago may be surprising, but as someone who heads a department in a ministry recently stated, “the world is changing so we too must change with the world.”

Samsung’s Vision in Vietnam

On April 22, several Vietnamese leaders of Samsung as well as former Vietnamese and South Korean ambassadors came together during a workshop at Hanoi’s University of Industry to share elements of success, future opportunities, and advice from their own careers with approximately 300 students.

The guests of honor included Mr. Han Myoung Sup: President, Samsung Complex Vietnam; Mr. Ha Chan Ho: Strategic Advisor, Samsung Vietnam and Former South Korean Ambassador to Vietnam; Mr. Lee Cheol Ku, Vice President of Human Resources, Samsung Vietnam; and Mr. Phạm Tiến Vân, Former Vietnamese Ambassador to South Korea. The theme of the workshop was “Building Vision” which communicated three basic tenets to the university students:

  1. Work Hard
  2. Ask “Why”
  3. Attitude is Everything

These three points were emphasized at different times during the workshop but the guest speakers also implored the students to think and dream big and to travel outside of Vietnam. In particular, Mr. Han Myoung Sup told the audience that Vietnam is an important part of the global economy. Later, Mr. Phạm Tiến Vân reminded the students that even though resources are limited, creation (and innovation) has no limit so they should try to make a difference, i.e., become “Creation Heroes.” He pointed out that South Korea went from a war-torn economy to becoming a developed nation and economic powerhouse within several decades–and that Vietnam should follow a similar path. (During the 1960s South Korea was considered among the poorest countries in the world.) Indeed, Samsung’s $11 billion investment in high technology (and in human capital) in Vietnam will be one of the keys to developing the country further in the future.

Samsung and Vietnam

Apart from other Samsung affiliates’ investment capital, currently, Samsung Electronics’ investments in Vietnam include:

  • $2.5 billion in factories in the northern province of Bac Ninh (producing cellphones, smartphones, tablets, and vacuum cleaners);
  • $5 billion in a hi-tech assembly plant in the northern province of Thai Nguyen (in Yen Binh Industrial Park); and
  • ~$1.4 billion in plant in Ho Chi Minh City.

Furthermore, Samsung Vietnam’s research center is located in Hanoi, making Vietnam an essential part of Samsung’s global supply chain. But Samsung is also an integral part of Vietnam’s economy as its largest foreign investor; last year, Samsung products made up 18% of Vietnam’s total export turnover.

Investing in Vietnam is appealing for Samsung because its new manufacturing facilities benefit from corporate tax breaks for the first four years of operations, and then half the normal rate for the following nine years, depending on meeting certain criteria. These tax breaks plus the lower cost of labor in Vietnam (compared to China, where Samsung is shifting its manufacturing from) will allow Samsung to remain competitive against rivals such as Apple and Xiaomi. But it also means that Samsung will have to keep its Vietnamese production facilities adequately staffed (in part by events like the “Building Vision” workshop) in order to meet the global demand of its products. Today, about one out of three Samsung phones are made in Vietnam.

Working at Samsung

Samsung branded magazines were distributed to the students, which featured facts about operations, profiles of current employees (including salary information), and other relevant information that might be of interest to students and future Samsung employees, allowing for an in-depth summary of what the work culture is like.

During the Q&A portion, a student asked for advice for interviewing with Samsung. Samsung Vietnam Vice President Lee Cheol Ku had the following advice for the student:

  1. Introduce yourself in English or Korean;
  2. Promote your strengths and touch upon your weak points; and
  3. Make the case for why Samsung should hire you.

Once hired, a good attitude, positive thinking, and confidence will surely accelerate any career, but especially so at Samsung (according to representatives). (And if a candidate is not found competitive, the speakers advised to try and apply again.) Samsung representatives said that the company considers each worker to be a “genius” and provides a fair playing field for advancement if an employee does a good job. It advertised a realistically attainable monthly wage for “fresh staff” (university hires) of 9.7 million VND (approximately $450—the monthly minimum wage in Vietnam is approximately $150) at the workshop and stated that it needs high-quality people who work hard and can be promoted quickly (thereby earning the higher stated wages).

By the end of next month, Samsung is looking to fill 2,000 student positions. Already, 18,000 candidates have applied (with 1,600 applicants from the University of Industry).

Constructive Vision

Economies like South Korea’s provide a road map for how a developing country can turn itself into a global leader (the other notable example being Japan). Sony, LG, Toyota, Hyundai, and Samsung are all prime examples of innovative companies that emerged as a result of necessary investments in high technology, complementary skills, and long term choices. (And, by the way, Intel, Microsoft, and LG have all collectively invested several billions of dollars in Vietnam as well.)

In general, Vietnamese workers are quick learners when properly incentivized and they are natural entrepreneurs. Companies like Samsung are leading the way to positively impact the human resources standards in Vietnam as well as to position themselves for optimal competitive advantages. However, in the not-too-distant future, attempts at a Vietnamese “Samsung,” or a Vietnamese “Xiaomi,” or a Vietnamese “Nintendo” may emerge to challenge these established players. Vietnam is already amassing vast amounts of IT outsourcing knowledge as it continues to build its low-tech manufacturing capabilities–and now multi-nationals are training its workforce on how to assemble hi-tech components. For some Vietnamese, it may only be a matter of time before the opportunity cost to start their own company becomes too great.

In the meantime, the advice given at the workshop isn’t just suitable for students—it’s apt for anyone in business (and would be good to record and share on YouTube with other students throughout Vietnam). Trade barriers continue to fall as competition increases around the world, especially in Southeast Asia. At the end of this year ASEAN integration begins, which will bring with it zero percent tariffs for most products throughout the region by 2018. No one can say for sure what the landscape will be like then–but the best way to predict the future is by creating it. Without a doubt, Samsung will continue to play a critical role in the Vietnamese ecosystem for years to come as it continues to invest billions into the rapidly-developing country.

Vietnam Expo 2015

Last week we stopped by to check out the 25th annual Vietnam Expo which was held from April 15-18 at the Vietnam Fair Exhibition Center (VEFAC) in Hanoi. The event was hosted by Vietnam’s Ministry of Industry and Trade (MOIT) and directed by the Vietnam Trade Promotion Agency (VIETRADE). Additionally, there were a number of sponsors, organizers, and overseas partners which resulted in 28 countries and territories participating in the event, according to official numbers.

The various exhibitors were spread across three different halls whereas VietBuild Hanoi (the last event we attended at the same location) was spread across both indoor and outdoor areas. Most of the foreign exhibitors seemed to be Korean and Chinese, which was confirmed by official literature. Even though there were more Chinese exhibitors, the Korean exhibitors were organized into their own sections (they had a dedicated area in the main building) which effectively promoted Korean businesses and Korean-Vietnamese economic interests. Surprisingly, there was only one listed Japanese company on the official Vietnam Expo 2015 literature. Furthermore, Cuban exhibitors had a strong showing at the expo, closely followed by Czech companies.

Additionally, there were Russian-origin products, e.g., digital testers for food and other uses. Recently, Prime Minister Medvedev visited Vietnam and announced a new trade deal between the Russian Federation and Vietnam so perhaps there will be more Russian exhibitors at the next Expo. With EU and US sanctions against Russia, this new deal between Russia and Vietnam could prove beneficial to Vietnamese exporters and Russian consumers (and vice versa).

Overall, a variety of beauty and skin care products were on display, mostly of Korean origin as well as some Chinese fashion/clothing trends that were showcased. There were two Korean products that interested us: one was a handmade wooden iPhone 6 case produced in ROK (but could be produced for a much lower cost in Vietnam); and the other was a mobile device charger that doubled as an advertising platform. However, both items seem like they would be better suited in other (developed) markets.

Engaging Exhibitors

We spoke to exhibitors from Nepal, Iran, the Czech Republic, Korea, China, Cuba, DPRK, and Germany, among others. Some had mixed feelings about the Expo; for example, a leather producer from India (but based in China) had paid a Chinese agent $6,000 under the false pretense that the Expo was exclusively for leather (the Indian businessman sold only wholesale). He arrived at the Expo on the first day to find that there were a variety of other goods that were exhibited as well. His attempts to reach his Chinese agent were unsuccessful and the exhibitor left the Expo the next day. This exhibitor described meeting other exhibitors who had been misled, as well as having met other exhibitors who had paid about $1,000 for a similar sized booth.

We met with some exhibitors who expressed confusion about the consumer goods that were present at the event as they had been under the impression that it was to be an industry event (for purchasing and sourcing rather than end-users) which partly reiterated the Indian businessman’s experience. Strangely, there was a large, but mostly empty, Algerian section at the Expo–due to logistical issues as we later found out; we met an Algerian representative who told us that the items for her booth experienced some transportation challenges so she was unable to fill up part of the Algerian section at the event.

We saw individual provinces that were promoted for investment, both by representation of the province (e.g., Quang Nam) and as part of a larger campaign. Furthermore, we met with representatives from more than one company who provided services for Vietnamese companies looking to enter outside markets. Basically, these companies could provide turn-key services for setting up in foreign markets (their respective domestic markets). The majority of the people whom we spoke to—both foreigners and Vietnamese–indicated that they felt there was a lot of opportunity in the Vietnamese market for foreign products as well as opportunity to export Vietnamese products abroad.

At the same time, it seemed difficult for some of the exhibitors to translate the opportunity in the Vietnamese market into success. Some exhibitors had signs in the front of their booths advertising the search for a (new) local partner while others freely expressed their desire to replace their current local partners. Within the first few minutes, exhibitors readily opened up about the challenges of not only attending the Expo but about doing business in Vietnam.

Of three exhibitors whom we spoke to and were actively seeking a new local partner, two of them already had Vietnamese agents. The local Vietnamese agents were described to us as “negative” and “untrustworthy” on two separate occasions. For example, when one exhibitor had informed his local agent of his intended plans to go to the Vietnam Expo, the Vietnamese agent told the foreign exhibitor, “No need, it’s a waste of time.” (Instead of looking forward to seeing his partner.)

In another instance, a different exhibitor shared with us that he suspected his Vietnamese agent was using the foreign brand to command a premium for lower quality parts (substitutes) and that while their organization felt there was a lot of potential in Vietnam, it wasn’t reflected in the small amount of sales coming from the Vietnamese market. (These opinions are from a company that has been operating in China since 1996 so they are not new to entering foreign markets.)

Still, the lack of easily-located quality partners in developing markets is both a hindrance and nothing new. However, with the Expo’s theme of “Cooperation towards the ASEAN Economic Community” (which begins at the end of this year), it remains more important for potential Vietnamese partners to realize the long-term benefits of introducing foreign products, techniques, technology, and other goods and services that Vietnam will need to continue developing into the 21st century.

Key Takeaways

Based on our experiences at the event (over a two-day period), there were several clear and recurring themes:

-The Expo is advertised internationally (to exhibitors) as an industry event—and promoted in other ways as a consumer event;

-Many foreign exhibitors expressed interest in deepening ties with Vietnam and doing more business here;

-It’s a two-way street: many Vietnamese products are suitable for foreign markets—or at least several exhibitors believe so and have formed companies around this thesis; and

-The quality of local agents for newly-entered foreign companies in the Vietnamese market can be greatly improved—but it is challenging to find quality partners.

If you are interested in linking up with a potential Vietnamese partner or would like to learn more about the Vietnam Expo 2015 event then get in touch with us at info@gktagroup.com. The next Vietnam Expo event will be held from April 6-9, 2016.

 

Vietbuild Hanoi 2015

Today is the last day of the 2015 Vietbuild Home International Exhibition, a place to showcase new products, new technologies, and to check out new trends in the Vietnamese construction industry. The fair, held from March 25-29, is located at the Giang Vo Exhibition Center in Hanoi’s Ba Dinh district (184 Giang Vo, to be precise). More than 1,000 booths were spread over five areas to represent over 400 local, international, and joint-venture companies.

We stopped by the exhibition twice over the course of the four day event to get a feel for both the direction of the construction industry and for current customer expectations in Vietnam. At times, the exhibition felt more like a nightclub with the loud Vinahouse music playing as well as the “PG” (promotions girls).  Some of the larger and more popular booths were set up by companies like EurowindowViglacera, and Austdoor. In addition to products, several real estate developments were on display such as V-Green City Pho Noi and Cam An – Hoi An. Furthermore, there were some crowded safety booths, which is good considering the generally lax attitude toward safety on many construction sites; we’re glad to see that safety considerations are becoming a higher priority.

Overall, there was a strong showing of reputable foreign products such as Stanley Tools and DeWalt; as well as products from South Korea, Germany, China, and others at the fair. For smart home options, there were several companies, including brands from Portugal and the Czech Republic. However, there were also a portion of products that would have a hard time finding traction in the west. Eastern and western tastes can be very different, i.e., what is considered “good design,” “fashionable,” or “stylish” in one part of the world would be seen as falling flat in another. Vietnamese (and Asian, to an extent) preferences, in general, tend to gravitate toward ornate, flashy, or imposing furniture, art, and, design (or frugality for items that very few people will see). For example, we witnessed plenty of oversized wooden furniture at the exhibition, as well as showers with multi-colored and changing LED lighting installed in the unit itself; a “karaoke shower,” if you will.

As we continued to walk around, at one point we caught a glimpse of 18th century aristocracy via a local company’s booth representing the Renaissance brand. The closest product to the other side of the spectrum was a “futuristic” nano spray which could render an item waterproof if appropriately applied—product demonstrators were using hair dryers, light bulbs, and other appliances that had been coated with the spray under water in a fish tank. According to the salesman, a can sells for approximately $50 and a coating will last between one and three years. While certainly a useful technology, the spray has the high potential to be misapplied, misunderstood, or misused–especially when using electrical products under water.

One section that caught our eye was the CNC machining and laser engraving area where small Buddha statues and other traditional-looking pieces of art were being crafted in front of us. It was interesting to see the numerous companies that are operating in this space, and even more curious that they were choosing to (re)produce traditional art pieces instead of contemporary ones. Tourists beware: that “old wood carving” (you’ll buy thinking that an old grandfather in a remote village somewhere spent years carving) could have actually been made by a computer-controlled machine the day before.

Vietnamese Homes and Expectations

The basic shape of Vietnamese homes (also known as “tube houses”) is credited to older tax codes resulting in the standard shape of ~3 stories tall by 5 meters by 13 meters deep (15ft wide, 40ft long). Many Vietnamese homes have a retail business (with fewer numbers having a business office) on the ground floor. Some newer houses can still use these dimensions as an archetype, but for those who can afford it, bigger is always better—especially in Asia.

Still, space is at a premium, especially with two, three, or more generations under the same roof (traditional Vietnamese children don’t move out until they marry and the eldest child must care for his/her parents). Additionally, taste, like art, is highly subjective; what looks or sounds “good” to one person may not to another. However, if you want to sell in a particular market then you need to understand the local culture and sell things the local consumers want. At the same time, you can also risk damaging or diluting your brand image just to make a quick sale. Thus, educating consumers about your product or service—and continuing to drive a consistent message—is the best way to establish your brand as a market leader in the long term. However, it can and will be capital and time intensive.

For example, new homeowners don’t care that the unit they are being handed over is dirty (e.g., paint spots on the floor and all over the baseboard), has shoddy installation (e.g., door trim not flush with the walls), and generally represents poor craftsmanship (e.g., gaps, crooked lights, and cheap materials). Why? Because once they take possession of the unit, they invest additional millions or billions (VND) to renovate the (sometimes) brand new unit.

(And why should trade workers and their managers care if clients don’t demand higher standards? These low standards only work as long as the requirements are low—they definitely aren’t suitable for smart homes.)

In apartment buildings, this renovation can mean that even the original front door is replaced with some drab steel cover and, of course, bars are added to the windows for security purposes. However, this isn’t the norm in much more expensive serviced residences. Yet, when we visited Lotte Center Hanoi last year about a month before it opened, the most technologically advanced equipment in a serviced unit was a motion sensor near the front door to turn a single light on/off upon entering/exiting. We covered the opportunity in this space in last week’s post.

Last week, we went to a brand new apartment to check out a recently finished two bedroom unit in the center of Hanoi; overall, the space was poorly utilized. For example, the “master” bedroom had a tiny balcony but no bathroom. The other bedroom had its own bathroom but there was a two square meter hole in the wall (near the ceiling) leading outside. The original door on the unit was for a flimsy deck door so there was little privacy. The other residents on that floor had all replaced their doors with a heavy wood door with a gray metal security gate to cover it (from different vendors). And, of course, security bars could be seen in front of the windows—an after market addition. Ultimately, it was hard to tell whether it was a hallway in a new apartment building or in a new prison.

Current and New Opportunities

Home security remains a huge opportunity in the Vietnamese market. As mentioned, Vietnamese homes usually have barred windows as well as shudders. There is at least one heavy-duty gate on the front door and if there is another then it’s a different style (metal gate or metal roller). Any walls might have barbed wire or broken glass perched on top and some deck spaces will be fully enclosed with metal bars. This security conscious approach to their homes is partly the result of a cash-bashed society, but it’s also because Vietnamese consumers tend to follow the pack: “if my neighbor does it, then I must also do it or do it even better.” Think of it like a hyper “Keeping up with the Jones’” mentality.

Companies like Dropcam provide the perfect option for Vietnamese consumers, who can check up on their homes while they are away or can be alerted when there is unauthorized movement. Beyond security, other smart home products could be successful in Vietnam as well including Philips Hue and the Sonos line up. But how can consumers want something they don’t know about?

Events like Vietbuild remain a great opportunity for demonstrating products—and in markets like Vietnam’s where educating consumers about a nascent industry is required, there is no substitute for seeing how a product works (instead of hearing about it). This is a country where the majority of e-commerce payments are handled COD once a consumer has had the ability to check out the product in front of his/her house before paying the delivery driver. Seeing is believing when it comes to new technology, and especially in Vietnam where consumers are suspicious about product quality as it still has room for improvement.

The next Vietbuild expo will be held in Danang from April 22-April 26.

Vietnam Today

Vietnam means different things to different people—some of these perceptions change every day, every year, or every visit and some of them remain frozen in time.

Tradition. An untapped opportunity. A glorious past. Increasing competition. The Fatherland. Independence. Echoes of war. A bright future. A rising dragon. The party. People of the sea. Resilience. Freedom. Children of the mountains. Liberalization. Home. Happiness.

So, what is Vietnam today? This post attempts to encapsulate daily life in Vietnam as a snapshot of some of the most common sights, sounds, and experiences in the country today. Some items on this list are not exclusive to Vietnam (or even Asia) but they are still noticeable in daily life in a major city like Ho Chi Minh City or Hanoi.

Vietnam is the land of…

1. “Selfies”

If you go out one night in either Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh City, you’ll probably find people taking selfies or self-captured photos. There are certain requirements for where and when one should take a selfie, including being with a significant other, before eating, being with friends, and generally anywhere and everywhere in between. The ubiquity of smart phones in Vietnam allows for the endless flow of media experiences to be captured, shared, and commented on to form an constant feedback loop.

2. Cafes

The cafe is an important part of life for Vietnamese. They are used for a bunch of core activities including meetings, relaxing, literally sitting around, playing games (multiplayer and single player), and to communicate status. Some common drinks are cafe sua da (also known as cafe no da in the north), xinh to xoai, and tra da. The cafe culture here is strong, rich, and all-encompassing but still very different in parts of the country.

3. iPhones

Not just smartphones, but Apple iPhones. These devices are seemingly everywhere and can be seen used by celebrities as well as (some) shopkeepers and street vendors. One way that the number of iOS devices increase in the country is through family: as people upgrade their handsets to the latest models, they pass on their older models to family members. There are millions of iOS devices in Vietnam but the app marketplace is largely fragmented with third party app portals.

4.Honking

A sea of traffic, clouds of exhaust, and incessant honking. Many Vietnamese drivers seem to use the horn simply because it is there. Another large portion seem to use the horn as if were sonar by sending out “pings.” The horns here seem to be at least 30% louder than US models and we could see custom horns emerge here similar to how there are custom ringtones for phones.

5. Wi-Fi

There is no need to ask if a venue has WiFi since it’s more efficient to ask what the password is (usually 12345678 or some similar variation). Almost every cafe or restaurant provides free Wi-Fi (that works when an undersea cable isn’t damaged). The widespread availability of Wi-Fi could pose a cyber security risk in the future, especially if the lax attitude toward privacy continues here.

6. Motorbikes

Vietnam is the world’s fourth largest market for motorbikes. During rush hour, motorbikes form rivers, which larger vehicles attempt to ford or cut through with impatience. Trying to navigate an intersection with other motorbikes is probably akin to being in a mechanized phalanx. Companies like Yamaha Motors Vietnam need to position themselves carefully considering that the Vietnamese dream is to drive to work in a car.

7. New construction

Drive around Hanoi and you can hear and see the future of Vietnam. Fly into Ho Chi Minh City and you can see the cranes that dot the city from above. Some future projects will be added to an already large real estate inventory (with outrageous prices per square meter) while smarter developers will find ways to differentiate their projects via advanced automation, control, and integration technologies in buildings to benefit end-users (and ultimately, to increase ROI).

8. Recycling

“Reduce, Reuse, Recycle” here is “Resell, Reuse, Repurpose.” Empty water bottles are collected and sold to recyclers. Anything that is not completely broken or destroyed is used or repurposed until it falls apart. It’s one of the most efficient aspects of Vietnam—especially when contrasted to some western habits of instantly replacing or upgrading appliances.

9. Name Brands

Nouveau riche are rising in status and increasing in numbers. Of course they are flocking to luxury brands but some lack the sophistication that usually comes with style. As they say, “money doesn’t buy class” so there is opportunity for etiquette schooling and training, especially in the north.

10. Youth

Young people are everywhere and although there are far too many banking and finance majors, they are the future of Vietnam (as cliched as it may be). A segment of them are break dancing, popping, locking, and dropping their ways into adulthood while those studying STEM subjects seem to be diving headlong into startups and IT outsourcing. Right now, many young Vietnamese idolize KPOP stars and are hungry for American culture—but they will all eventually craft their own styles.

11. Touch

Personal space does not exist here. Touching, at times inappropriately (from western point of view), is a way to communicate (since much of Vietnamese language relies on context). Couples (not just romantic ones) can be seen walking together in a semi-drunken stagger while talking loudly, laughing, or sharing some inside joke.  Be prepared to “pinball” off some people in crowded public spaces as space is at a premium. Co-workers regularly and playfully slap each other; a sign of affection.

12. Drinking

Drinking and Vietnam go hand-in-hand. Beer Hanoi, Beer Saigon, Beer Truc Bach (the finest beer in Vietnam), Beer Halong, Beer Hue—you get the idea (those are all beer brands, by the way). Then there is ruou, rice alcohol which can come in a variety of flavors. Drinking is an occasion for bonding, building soft relationships with counterparts, and for social (and professional) lubrication.

13. Smoking

Cigarettes, traditional bongs, and hookah. Non-smokers are in for a rough time in Vietnam—there’s always someone smoking nearby (usually Marlboro or Thanh Long brands). Smoking is allowed indoors and is encouraged in nightlife spaces. The air quality already is not great in major cities like Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi—the longterm health implications of these combinations are alarming. Purchases and installations of air and water filtration systems will become more common as Vietnamese seek to protect their children from harmful exposure to pollutants.

14. Music

Music is used to attract customers on the street, to drown out one’s senses in nightclubs, and just because someone is in the mood to blast it. Young people on the street break out into impromptu ballads or sing along with songs in unison. Overall, music here is dangerously loud and Vietnamese will pay the price for these unsafe audio levels in the form of fees to audiologists.

15. Stares

Everyone stares here, especially if you are an attractive woman, a foreigner, or are different in any way, shape, or form—in that case then they stare at you as if you are an alien. A simple smile or wave can break the ice but coming from a culture where staring is considered impolite, it can be jarring to some.

20 Years (+/-)

Twenty years ago this list would have been radically different except for a few items. Most vehicles on the roads were bicycles at that time. Imagine what a snapshot of Vietnam will be in the year 2035 with approximately 110 million people. Unrecognizable? Some parts Bangkok and other parts Hong Kong? Sustainable eco-tourism? A center for innovation in Southeast Asia?

In the early 20th century, the population of Vietnam was about 20 million. Today, Vietnam has over 90 million people. Vietnam is rapidly changing; some changes are positive and while others are unclear. What will be Vietnam’s role as we continue deeper into the 21st century? Only time will tell but one thing is certain—the pace of change here will surely increase.

Phonsavan, Xiengkhouang Province

Phonsavan is the capital of Xiengkhouang Province, arguably the most heavily bombed area of the most heavily bombed country (per capita), Laos, in the world. Phonsavan itself is a relatively new city—the old capital Muang Khoun, about 30 kilometers south of Phonsavan, was largely affected by the Second Indochina War (Vietnam War). In fact, the old capital was so damaged by the bombing that many of the original stupas were destroyed.

Besides these and other artifacts of war (e.g., a crumbling French hospital), the surrounding landscape here is quiet and peaceful; the sun pierces through limited cloud formations to form stunning arrays of light and long stretches of crisp blue sky seem to hang overhead indefinitely. At night stars and other space objects are clearly visible to the naked eye—a rare sight coming from hazy and smoggy Hanoi.

The main strip of Phonsavan has the distinct feel of an Old West town, especially with the backdrop of nearby rolling hills. At times, “Montana” comes to mind, however this thought is quickly squeezed out of mind when the surprising amount of Vietnamese and Chinese signage comes into focus. Throughout Phonsavan there is a healthy mix of Chinese and Vietnamese nationals; the Vietnamese influence is most visible in the form of late night pho restaurants and neon red lit massage parlors (tam quat) dotted on the main strip.

Passing through Phonsavan, it’s easy to spot the Vietnamese—they drive more erratically (locals here drive recklessly enough when compared to Vientiane drivers but Vietnamese-driven buses were described to us as “torpedoes”), speak more loudly, and have more aggressive demeanors (work ethic and attitude) than the laid-back Lao locals. Your author stopped by a banh mi shop on the side of the road and asked one Vietnamese man who had been in Phonsavan for five months what he thought of Lao people; he held out his right hand, rubbed his fingers together with his thumb, and quickly shook his head while grimacing. Nothing more needed to be said.

Interacting with Locals

At a local club called Dok Mai Daeng (“red flower” in Lao) young Hmong people dance in relentless synchronization which eventually morphs into equal parts mosh pit and dance battle as the music picks up in tempo and the MC directs their abundant energy from center stage. Young men lift each other up and attempt to publicly determine who between them is taller, pausing every so often to forcefully crash and jump into young women on the dance floor—who equally seem to enjoy the rough contact. In between songs, all parties return to their respective tables or the young men find suitable partners to dance slowly to, depending on the next song. Interesting as it may be, this excited and loud scene is a far cry from the typical expat experience in Phonsavan.

The consistent westerner expat community in Phonsavan is fairly small with a majority of backpackers and tourists rounding out the western presence; the latter mostly in town to check out the mysterious Plain of Jars or using the town as a rest stop on the way to Luang Prabang. The Plain of Jars (PDJ according to the French abbreviation) is the main tourist attraction nearby, with a different feel from backpacker tubing in Vang Vieng or high-end resort tourism in Luang Prabang. Most nights, longterm expats can be found at Bamboozle, a restaurant run by a Scot named Mark, and perhaps the best place in town to find a quality meal. These “local” expats are almost certainly working for an NGO or doing volunteer work in town related to the continued effects of the bombing campaigns from decades ago.

Mines Advisory Group (MAG) is out in the field on a daily basis and there are a number of other NGOs (such as UXO Lao) that focus on Unexploded Ordnance (UXO), ranging from clearance to victim support assistance. The UXO sector in Laos (“mine action” in the official parlance) comprises three areas: clearance, mine risk education, and victim assistance. These services are badly needed here because an estimated 30% of the more than 270 million cluster submunitions dropped on Laos failed to explode. To put that figure in perspective, an average of one sortie (a roundtrip flight by one aircraft) was conducted every eight minutes for nine years (1964-1973).

Besides UXO, the biggest enemy these days could be boredom in Phonsavan, which can lead to heavy drinking for locals and expats alike in this rural area. Drinking is part of daily life in Lao PDR, and in Phonsanvan the national past time doesn’t divert too far away from its core. Runway Club, the largest nightclub in the area (and nestled in a bus depot), serves as another collection point in the “night life” funnel for the locals. Post-curfew, anyone who is still in the mood to continue the night reunites at one of several late night Vietnamese restaurants, which can also house snooker tables. As in much of Asia, driving is a hazard, but in Phonsavan the activity takes a higher form of danger—especially with drunken drivers careening down the main strip late at night and others making impromptu U-turns without advance warning. It’s interesting to note that at every location we went to in Phonsavan, we were either the only westerners in a venue or we were surrounded by fellow westerners, a highly segregated experience.

A Mix of History, Cultures, and Futures

A local official whom we spoke to at “Beer Party” Restaurant in Phonsavan described Lao culture as the following :

1. Having enough rice to eat;

2. Having a house to live in;

3. Having friends and relatives to come over and drink with; and

4. Having a partner to share life with.

However, this official also spoke about the foreign exchange of technical skills with Lao people, i.e., needing advanced knowledge from other places. This official was the second person out of six or seven who proceeded to come to our table to introduce themselves to us and speak with us in a mix of Lao, English, and Vietnamese (in that order). One constant throughout the entire experience was the warmth and hospitable nature of the Lao people—always smiling, always greeting, and always trying to help foreigners adjust to the local settings.

Even when the subject turned to the Secret War, and the massive bombing campaign carried out by the US government during the 1960s and 1970s, our counterparts seemed apologetic when referencing what had partly transpired where we were standing over 30 years ago. On this subject, we had an experience which ended up being the most sobering of all during the time we spent at this local eatery: one man, a chemistry teacher at a local teacher’s college, explained to us that his father had been killed by the bombing. It wasn’t clear whether his father was a civilian, Pathet Lao, or Royalist supporter, but this man was still visibly affected by events leading up to the revolution in 1975.

Chinese and Vietnamese influence in Xiengkhoang Province during that time took on a different form but presently, the Chinese focus on the commercial development projects while the Vietnamese focus on residential construction; these activities give one the distinct feeling of the area being carved up for neighborly consumption (or competition, depending on perspective). One 27-year-old Chinese national whom we spoke to at Desa Restaurant had been in Lao PDR for about a year; he had learned the language by spending time working in the chemicals sector.

Almost as soon as we had sat down at our own table, we were quickly invited to his table where he had been drinking with three other similarly aged Lao colleagues. Together, we shared several rounds of Beerlao and exchanged questions and answers about our respective backgrounds; at one point, one of the Lao men expressed his desire to visit the US in the future while the others nodded in unison. Our other discussion topics ranged from marriage to work to travel plans. Toward the end of our night, we toasted our newfound friendships with each other: three Lao nationals, two Americans, and one Chinese citizen sitting together in a local hangout in one of the most heavily bombed areas in the world.

Taking a Closer Look at the IPP

In our last post, we outlined the IPP, explained its goals, and touched upon some of the challenges ahead for the program’s stakeholders. This week we are going to take a deeper look at the IPP and the cultural, comparative, and collaborative challenges ahead for the program in Vietnam.

Last weekend we sat down with Chris Zobrist, the Senior Innovation Partnerships Expert at the IPP, and he shared his thoughts on operating in Vietnam, the potential for entrepreneurship and innovation on a local level, and how the IPP factors into the changing landscape in Vietnam.

  • Can you share a bit about yourself? What’s your background, your role in your organization, and where are you located?

CZ: I’m currently working as Senior Innovation Partnerships Expert for IPP, which is a joint program funded by the Foreign Ministry of Finland and the Ministry of Science and Technology of Vietnam.  My background is as both an entrepreneur, having started many businesses over the last 15 years, as well as an entrepreneurship educator, spending part of my time teaching entrepreneurship and developing curriculum in several universities in Vietnam.

  • What kind of opportunities do you see in Vietnam over the next five years?

CZ: Vietnam has a lot of talent, especially in engineering and software development, and there are already a few high-growth companies as well as local start-ups planting entrepreneurial seeds here.

  • What’s the best way to establish trust with Vietnamese business counterparts?

CZ: It depends a lot on the individual with whom you are trying to build a relationship, specifically in terms of their background.  Generally, the best way to get to know someone is through someone they already know and trust, as in many cultures, Vietnamese really value social capital, and this can be transferred from one person to another through a proper introduction.  Besides introductions, sharing meals, and drinking together are also good ways of building trusting relationships which is an essential element of working together.

  • What’s the biggest difference between American and Vietnamese mentalities?

CZ: Coming from a developed country that churns out high quality products as well as infrastructure (roads, public buildings, etc), Americans as well as people from other developed countries have a natural expectation to see and make things at a high standard of quality.  Vietnam is still a developing country, so many things are made with what little resources were available, and so the expectation for quality coming from domestically produced goods is not high.

  • What’s the hardest part about doing business in Vietnam?

CZ: Ensuring high quality standards.

  • Do you have a favorite quote?

CZ: “I’m all for progress, it’s change I object to.” – Mark Twain, I like this quote because it is the most apt description of the greatest challenge facing entrepreneurs and innovators in almost every context, and especially true in a country like Vietnam.

  • What are the biggest differences between Hanoi and Saigon in terms of doing business?

CZ: Saigonese are generally much more open to new people and ideas, as long as there’s a clear opportunity and logic in place.  Hanoians are much more conservative, so even if they are presented with an attractive opportunity, they will be reluctant to mobilize the needed resources to capitalize on it.

  • What are the necessary attributes to succeed in Vietnam?

CZ: Social networks and building trusting relationships are keys to success in Vietnam.

  • Do you have any advice for expats/locals who want to be entrepreneurs in Vietnam?

CZ: Entrepreneurship is a team effort, so if you want to be successful, you need to learn how to network and collaborate with others to get things done.

Entrepreneurship, Innovation, and the IPP

During our discussion, Mr. Zobrist made it clear that the IPP is looking for people who have the necessary motivation, connections, and capacity to scale a company globally. That means that local companies will eventually have to implement international accounting standards, utilize English as an official working language (especially if looking to raise funding from foreigner investors), and clearly communicate a company’s Unique Selling Proposition (USP) across markets and cultures (differentiation).

While it might sound challenging, what the IPP is seeking to achieve isn’t impossible because it’s already been done before in Japan. Mr. Zobrist pointed out that Japan went from a ravaged post-World War 2 economy to the world’s second largest economy in the 1990s. What enabled Japan to be successful in its economic transformation was a stark shift in the workforce mindset, which even facilitated new vocabulary to implement innovative solutions.

Before this paradigm shift in Japan, specific industry terms did not exist to describe small batch, high quality production to factory workers. The Japanese created their own processes with their own resources to drive economic growth in 20 years; Japanese engineers, managers, and leaders took innovative ideas, applied them to manufacturing and processes and the result was innovative products from brands such as SonyHonda, and Toyota. Thus, the development of a new technical language was necessary, which involved a social level (individuals, units, company culture, etc.) of change in innovation, and ultimately led to a change in output of manufacturing (lean manufacturing).

Vietnam currently has a similar language challenge ahead of it; for example, the terms doanh nhân and doanh nghiệp can mean “entrepreneur” or “businessman” and are used interchangeably (and sometimes ambiguously) in Vietnamese. Along those same lines, sáng tạo means “creation” while đổi mới means “renovation” so combining the two (sáng tạo đổi mới) is the closest meaning to “innovation” (literally “creative renovation”) in Vietnamese. The language will have to evolve in order to reflect the high standards and creative thinking that are necessary to maintain a competitive advantage in the global marketplace.

An ecosystem like Vietnam’s needs both entrepreneurship and innovation in order to foster the creation of high growth and innovative companies with a global outlook. If a company chooses to keep the status quo then it will stagnate, or worse, die. Copying existing models can be valuable, yes, but not nearly as valuable as new ideas that lead to the creation of value for a large number of customers or stakeholders. High growth companies are innovative and innovation requires change–there is no getting around this fact.

New language can shape new segments of a culture and creating new and/or dedicated Vietnamese words for entrepreneurship and innovation will allow the exchange of new ideas more efficiently and also help to facilitate a change in mindset–goals that the IPP hopes to realize once its integrated system is fully operational (good inputs producing good outputs).

The IPP seeks to perfect the way of building innovation systems in order to turn them loose and harness the innovative and entrepreneurial resources here in Vietnam. Then, the IPP can develop iteratively by building and expanding on foundational knowledge (training individuals and teams who can then train other individuals and teams and so on). In short, the IPP is building a Minimum Viable Product (MVP), learning from the outcomes, and making the necessary changes (quickly and fully) in order to make the process of creating high growth and innovative companies more effective and efficient in the future.

When the first phase of IPP finished at the end of 2012 there were some major lessons that were learned, leading to a promotion of transparency, accountability, and momentum for IPP Phase 2 (which began in January). This public-private partnership, comprised of a core curriculum and fellowship program, will eventually fully integrate entrepreneurship and innovation–but this process will require time, talent, and commitment at the individual, community, and governmental levels if it is to succeed in its mission.

Toward the end of our conversation, Mr. Zobrist pointed out that the IPP will have its final evaluation in 2018 but for now, the short term focus is on capacity building and making grants available to suitable applicants in this “wilderness stage.” However, the first significant indicators of progress could be as early as the end of this year or in early 2016 as the Fast Track training draws to a close and the New Innovative Companies are eligible for external funding on Demo Day.

With approximately 200 Expressions of Interests submitted to the IPP for New Innovative Companies, we look forward to seeing what kinds of teams are selected for the IPP–and more importantly, what kinds of teams, trends, and lessons emerge from the other side of the Fast Track Training.

Thanks to Chris Zobrist for sharing his time with us.

Setting Expectations Across Cultures

Lately, we’ve been meeting with university students from Foreign Trade University, Diplomatic Academy of Vietnam, and Banking Academy of Vietnam—and we’ve also been encountering some newcomers in Vietnam.

We’ve previously covered the youth in Vietnam, in particular how the true potential of Vietnam is embedded in its youth and in finding creative solutions to global problems, e.g., frugal innovation. Overall, we still maintain our high aspirations for the young Vietnamese that we have encountered and even higher expectations for the future of Vietnam because of them. We have also previously covered communication here in Vietnam but this week we are going to set the stage for interactions between foreigners and locals because there can be a lot of misreading and miscommunication between cultures, especially when there is a mismatch of expectations from the onset. It’s important to point out that Vietnam itself is not homogenous–there are great differences (accents, attitudes, allowance for risk) between north, south, and central areas of the country.

From an Outsider’s Perspective

Overall, there are some very traditional aspects in Vietnam to consider; it’s a patriarch society where saving face is crucial and most sensitive subjects are handled indirectly. Social events are a dance of respect, camaraderie building, and copious amount of alcohol. In the Vietnamese language, there are different ways to address the person you are speaking to, depending on if s/he is older or younger than you, your parents, and his/her position in society or environment relative to yours. Thus, a situation that would be normal between colleagues in the west would be very different here as age and relationships would come into play if there was ever a dispute.

The following are advice and suggestions for new expats (compiled from experience, anecdotes, and research)—not all of it applies to every encounter, rather these are themes that seem to permeate through interactions here and that we have reached consensus on.

Everyday and specific problems aren’t fully addressed as they are a sign of weakness (saving face); anything that is perceived as being negative is shunned. For example, we asked a client what their hardware defect rate is for their product line. Their response was, “we aim to have a hardware defect rate of 1%.” However, that response didn’t inform us what the current hardware defect rate is.

A lack of negative points in a discussion needs exposure; things will get swept under the rug. In the worst cases, problems will be actively hidden.

Figure out when yes really means yes; get a commitment from your counterpart. Trust but verify. Don’t believe it until you see it (completion or payment). Often, we find that people here are very good at going from A-Z but they miss the required steps in the middle unless questioned and, in some cases, led down a path of logic. You will have to guide many elements of scope or else they will fall through the cracks.

Don’t listen to what people say, look at what they do.

Your author worked on a project in HCMC a couple of years ago. One of our local partners missed five deadlines in a three month period which caused multiple issues with the client. Who was more foolish? Our partner for continuing to miss deadlines or us for believing him after he missed the second deadline?

If you are working on a project beware of unreasonable timelines and expectations, especially if there is a set date for delivery (such as an event). A common tactic is to give responsibilities away close to a deadline, and then assign blame when things go awry—especially for subordinates. However, those same people will take credit when things go well. Don’t do things for free or deviate outside your scope or else you will be blamed if something goes wrong.

It’s not uncommon for local managers to request an “urgent” item the night before (via text message) for a sub 12-hour turnaround or even as an employee is walking out the door at 8:00 PM before the weekend.

Many local partners will want to proceed ad hoc and may be concerned about “protecting” the end customer. Sometimes, the price of a good or service is secondary when trying to close a deal, especially through an intermediary.

The concept of “allies” and “enemies” within an organization is very prominent in local organizations; this phenomenon can be especially noticeable at the C-level in large or public organizations. Think tree trunks and roots for each position.

Give options but not more than two; there are many masters of “getting you to do work for free” here.

You will be stared at in the streets a lot. Smile back to break the ice.

Common Questions and Phrases

In the course of meeting Vietnamese, you will be bombarded with questions about your personal life and work in Vietnam. In no particular order:

Where are you from?

Are you married?

What do you think of Vietnam?

Do you have any brothers or sisters?

Where do you live in Hanoi?

How long have you been here?

Are you an English teacher?

You’ll also have to diplomatically handle some uncommon statements (in the west), such as:

“You’re handsome.”

“I’m training to be a good wife.”

“You should find a Vietnamese girlfriend or wife.”

“You would make a good wife.”

Above all, your nationality can either be an advantage or a disadvantage—but very few people here are overtly anti-American, anti-French, or anti-Chinese (although last year’s riots are an exception).

Working Effectively with Foreigners

Foreign companies will have increasingly higher requirements for local workers as FDI amounts increase. Local consumers will also demand better customer service or brand experiences as their purchasing power increases. The following advice has been compiled from students, workers, your author, and others who have worked with locals on a variety of projects at different levels—this advice is specifically for students.

Ideas without execution are delusions.

Show up five minutes early to meetings—don’t show up late; every time someone is late then s/he has to get caught up with events that already happened.

Say “I don’t know how to do that” when you actually don’t know. It’s better to ask questions before doing something than to do it wrong the first time. And you will actually save time instead of doing things over and over again.

Be focused in meetings. And be quiet when others are talking.

Listen to the one who is speaking. Again, don’t talk over others; it’s rude.

Actually give your opinion when asked for it—somebody asked you because s/he cares and you probably have insight that the person who asked you doesn’t have.

When everyone is agreeing about an issue, try to take the opposite position—groupthink is how companies are ruined.

Ask: “what can I do to help?” Follow through. The greatest shortage of resources in Southeast Asia is quality talent who can understand “glocal” requirements, i.e., global and local.

Don’t make silly excuses for whatever reason you are late or don’t feel like working (rain or traffic). Illness, a death in the family, and/or caring for an ill or injured family member are not silly excuses.

Think critically. Be skeptical; talk is cheap.

Prioritize. Write down your goals and tell someone. Most people will be happy to help or mentor.

Say no when you actually don’t agree with something.

Work in advance to meet the deadline. Organize work smartly to have time to think, plan, do, and win.

Ask for help when you need to; not the day before a deadline. Don’t wait until the last minute, it shows a lack of respect for a person’s time.

If you see a problem, mention it and try to come up with a solution for the problem.

Don’t think outside of the box, expand your box.

Don’t ever say “cannot” or “impossible” or “so sorry, please sympathize with me.” It wastes everyone’s time, including yours.

Be confident but remain humble, always. People acting like a “big boss” and shouting and screaming at others is not viewed well in the west. Steve Jobs was an exception.

Try to keep things professional; try to keep an open mind. Don’t be sexist; don’t make fun of your teammates.

Think through ideas to the end. How will you do that? And then what comes after?

Everyone has good ideas and no one has a monopoly on good ideas.

Don’t ask people outright for tangible help: money, job, free work. Try to help them first or ask what their biggest problem is and how you can help.

People who cannot follow through cannot be trusted—this goes for expats and locals.

Trust takes a long time to build and can be lost in a moment—don’t abuse someone’s trust.

The Biggest Piece

The advice offered above is non-exhaustive and has western bias according to Hofstede’s dimensions. The best thing to do is to talk to people; if you are a newly arrived expat then you should be talking to someone new every day. If you are a student and want to know more about foreign customs then ask someone from that country. Reading about it and doing it are two different things and the best way to learn something is by doing it.

The first time you do something is the hardest–eventually you’ll get the hang of it and will be more efficient and effective at it, whether it’s communicating requirements, asking to make sure something is done, or conflict resolution (or avoidance). Like the variety of photos in the gallery, Vietnam has many faces, shapes, forms, and settings. Don’t try to stereotype or label what you see, but instead try to understand why things are the way they are–that’s way more important to do than criticizing it or condemning it. Once you understand something, then you can see where the opportunities lie–even across cultures.